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Posted by: dfw ®
04/03/2007, 20:55:00


I was diagnosed with abductor spasmodic dysphonia four years ago. Since then, I’ve had Botox injections, gel foam injections, hundreds of voice therapy sessions, and many other treatments.

A few months ago, my doctor prescribed the sleeping aid Ambien to help me with insomnia. Usually, I would take a pill as needed and then go to bed, unaware of any effects beyond drowsiness. However, about two weeks ago, my son came in to talk to me before I had fallen asleep and I noticed that my voice was really good. I didn't realize the significance at the time. Then a few days later, I read a news article (pasted below) about a woman who awoke from a coma after a dose of Ambien. This especially caught my attention because the type of coma she suffers from (akinetic mutism) specifically affects speech.

So... I experimented with taking a dose and staying awake to see if it affected my voice. Amazingly, my voice was almost completely normal. Since then, I’ve tried it again and experienced the same improvement. I have a good, strong voice with absolutely no strain or effort.

Unfortunately, I'm not able to take advantage of this improvement during the day because of the sedative effects, although it's not hard for me to stay awake after taking it. I've found that if I take it a little earlier in the evening, I can enjoy a few hours of good voice. I take advantage of this time to practice my vocal exercises and also to make phone calls, which have been very difficult for me in the past. Being able to call my elderly mother and have her be able to hear me has been a true blessing.

I've contacted my doctors and even the pharmaceutical company, but no one has heard of this before. Anyway, it's all very strange and hopeful.

Article:

Sleeping Pill Wakes Woman After 2 Years in Coma

Ambien 'mini-miracle' may give more insight into how the brain works, experts say

By Jeffrey Perkel, HealthDay Reporter

TUESDAY, March 13 (HealthDay News) -- A dose of the prescription sleep aid Ambien had the opposite effect on one French woman, awakening her from a two-year coma.

The 48-year-old woman suffered from akinetic mutism -- a sort of persistent coma in which the patient is alert but can neither speak nor move. She had lain in this state after sustaining damage to the frontal lobe of her brain
due to a lack of oxygen.

But one day she was given zolpidem (Ambien) to treat ongoing insomnia.

"Twenty minutes later, her family noticed surprising signs of enhanced arousal," the study authors wrote. "She became able to communicate to her family, to eat without (swallowing) troubles, and to move alone in her bed. These effects started 20 minutes after drug administration and lasted for
two to three hours."

After treatment, the patient could walk for short periods, and to speak if prompted, though not spontaneously. "This phenomenon was so reproducible that caregivers used to give her up to three tablets each day without sleepiness as 'side effect,' " the researchers wrote.

Using positron emission tomography (PET) scans, the researchers found that the drug treatment caused the woman's frontal lobes to become "way more active," noted Dr. James Grisolia, a neurologist at Scripps Mercy Hospital
in San Diego. He was not involved in the research, which was led by Dr. Christine Brefel-Courbon, of the University Hospital in Toulouse, France.

Speaking of the case, Grisolia said that, "It is a function of drugs like this that, besides putting you to sleep, they can also increase blood flow. And that activity apparently trumped the sleepiness caused by the medication in this one patient," he explained.

The results are published in the March issue of Annals of Neurology.

"This is a clinical mini-miracle that may give more insight into how the brain works," Grisolia added. "In the long run, it might help us to help other people that are in unresponsive or semi-coma states."

According to Grisolia, other case reports have shown coma patients "awakening" through stimulant medications, but never from a medication like zolpidem. How the drug worked its magic in this case remains unknown. "It needs case reports and further study in the lab to get a handle on this," he
said.

Dr. Tetsuo Ashizawa, professor and chairman of the department of neurology at the University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston, called the report "interesting." But he cautioned against using such a single-patient study as a basis for treating other, seemingly similar cases.

"I understand the desire of the family member to give Ambien to patients" as a result of this study, he said, "but I would not tell them that they should expect improvement. As a physician, I would say this worked in this lady but it may not work in your father or mother, so they should not have unreal
expectations. If it works, OK, but if it doesn't, don't be disappointed."

Still, Grisolia said he expects more reports on the effect of zolpidem in akinetic mutism will be published as a result of this study.

"I'm sure that anyone that has a relative who is in a long-term coma is going to be interested in having the doctor try Ambien and see if it makes a difference. So we may get more case reports very quickly," he said.

A spokeswoman for Sanofi-Aventis, the pharmaceutical company that manufactures Ambien, declined to comment on the study.




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Posted by: Laurie ®
04/03/2007, 21:50:00


Hi. That is interesting, though probably a completely different mechanism would be involved if it could allegedly help an SD patient. An akinetic mutism or any sort of cognitive/speech problem as it relates to the brain is unrelated to a dystonic motor control neurological voice disorder.

No idea why it would work for SD but even if it does, it's probably not in the same way as this article describes it for a "brain/speech" related problem.

Laurie




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Posted by: dfw ®
04/03/2007, 22:41:15


One of my doctors, Dr. Robert Sinard, thought there may be something about this medication that blunts the central nervous system response to vocal cord adduction.

Lori
Dallas, Texas
AB/SD – 4 years
4deluca@airmail.net




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Posted by: kitten ®
04/03/2007, 23:00:48


I was on Ambien for seven years for severe insomnia I had from the time I was a teenager that grew progressively worse as a grew older. I tought at one time that taking Ambien so long may have helped cause my ABSD. Ambien is recommended only for short time periods, rather than extended use. I actually developed my symptoms after I started taking the drug and it didn't help my voice at all as I continued to take it 2 years after I was diagnosed. Because of pain from muscle tension in my neck, my ENT asked me to quit Ambien and put me on Valium instead. It doesn't help me sleep as well as Ambien did. I do get to sleep easily but wake up frequently (because of pain).



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Posted by: mariaa ®
04/06/2007, 13:00:55


Anything that is sedating helps sd. That is what a specialist in spasmodic dysphonia told me. Ambien is sedating.
I believe from experience and what was told to me by one of the top specialists in the country that this is true.



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Posted by: ChokedUp ®
04/09/2007, 09:02:23


Maybe I should try it for SD and because I seem to wake up so frequently in the night these days! I'm just afraid it will leave me groggy in the morning. As for anything that is sedating being beneficial to SD patients, what I have personally found is that this is much more true in the early stages of SD and not so much as time goes on. Not that I've had SD for that long, but 2 or 2 1/2 years ago I found relief with a glass or two of wine or Xanax (which a doctor prescribed to me, not for anxiety, but for the mild sedative (muscle relaxant) effect). They no longer help my voice. Has anyone had a similar experience?



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Posted by: dfw ®
04/09/2007, 19:48:31


I was diagnosed 4 years ago with AbSD and this is the first time that I’ve had an experience like this with a medication. I’ve taken Valium before and it helped relax the tense muscles, but didn’t improve my voice at all. I've never tried Xanax.

The Ambien works great for a good night’s sleep. Give yourself 7-8 hours to sleep and you wake up feeling very well rested without any grogginess or hangover effect. Although it’s not a narcotic, I still don’t take it every night because I don’t want to become dependent on it.

Lori
AbSD – since 2003
Dallas, TX




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Posted by: mariaa ®
04/09/2007, 20:06:43


I have had sd for over 20 years and anything sedating helps me. I do only have ab sd on the left vocal cord, maybe that is why?



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Posted by: kitten ®
04/10/2007, 12:58:20


Ambien will leave you groggy, but only for a few minutes until you get moving. It is additive when taken every day. I took it for over 7 years and had a rough 2 weeks withdrawing when my ENT switched me to Valium. I don't sleep as well but the Valium does get me to sleep. I have an insomnia problem due to chronic pain that prevents me from getting to sleep and staying asleep. I must move many times in the night to get comfortable.

I had a brief vocal relief using Ativan but the effects quickly diminished as my system became accustomed to the drug and it no longer helps my voice at all.

Valium helps a little with muscle tension but does nothing for my voice. Even that drug is having a progressively less effectiveness.

I was just recently diagnosed with a bone spur causing nerve root imflamation at the C5 nerve and is damaging the nerve. If my chiropractor cannot stop the progression I could end up a quadrapelgic. Because the problem is caused by many bone spurs I was advised by my orthopedic surgeon the condition would be considered inoperable. I just lost my social security disability hearing and one opinion was the bone spur causing the nerve root imflamation is not considered "severe" because it did not require "injections" or "surgery for a disc condition," neither of which is an option and an error on the judge's assesment.

Karen ABSD since 2003




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Posted by: kelroan ®
04/21/2007, 14:38:02


After I read your message, I didn't think much of it, but I had made an appointment with my physician about 2 days before i found this message board... for insomnia. I was given rx for Ambien also, so the first thing I did was think about your message. I took it last night for the first time, and after an hour, I got a phone call and I noticed my voice was good. no difficulty speaking. Still not alot of volumne, but definitely different/improved. I didn't want to stop talking, but finally had to go to bed. Today, periodically, there is a noticeable improvement in my voice. But nothing compared to last night. I will keep monitoring things and check back with you. Are you still seeing marked improvement in the evenings?



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Posted by: dfw ®
04/25/2007, 20:02:26


kelroan -- I'm so glad that this helped you. It still works for me too. I take it earlier in the evening so that I can make phone calls to my Mom and other people that I normally can't talk to. It's been a blessing, even for only a few hours a week. I try not to take it every night so that I don't become dependent on it, but I've heard from people who have taken it every night for years. Please keep me updated. My email is 4deluca@airmail.net.

Lori
AB/SD - 2003
Texas



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