Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams


Posted by gary w lea ® , Mar 03,2001,14:06   Archive
I saw Dr. Cooper in 1995 for 2 weeks. I found him both caring, and iconoclastic, very persuaded that he and his approach were valid and that other approaches, particularly botox (of which I've had 5, the last in 1996 ),were misguided, if not dangerous. I gained a lot from the 2 weeks I had with him but even with daily practice over the next year it was evident that I had plateaued using his approach. I had also had my silver-mercury dental amalgams out in 1994; with each mercury chelating treatment I have enjoyed greater and greater vocal success and, interestingly enough, parallel improvement in my ability to use the approach that Cooper taught me over 5 years ago. I still use his techniques, or a mild variant thereof, on a daily basis. My mercury levels still remain in a high range notwithstanding multiple treatments but they were extremely high at the outset ( no, I didn't work in a thermometer factory--it was only my amalgams, 8 of them). I was diagnosed with SD in 1992 by a leading Canadian ENT and I have NO DOUBT that I had a severe vocal disorder--- something more than MTD. I now have a virtually normal voice , so long as I use my voice correctly and avoid substances such as dairy products, citrus fruits and juices, and spicy foods. These foods used to kill" my voice for a day or more. Now they may affect my voice for several hours so I treat myself with these things on the weekend when I know I won't be needing my voice for a few days ( I am a forensic psychologist and do a lot of Court work). The role of mercury in the dystonias has had no scientific attention--which is regrettable given that it is an identified neurotoxin located barely barely 1" from your larynx and readily transported into the brain, spine, and other organs. I had severe back and chest spasms as well whether I was using my voice or not. When I have time I will elaborate on my experience. By the way, it is unlikely that "everyone" who has their amalgams out will enjoy vocal improvement (amalgam removal has, nonetheless, benefited a minority of patients suffering from a wide array of neurological problems) but I also think it unlikely in the extreme that I'm the only one who will benefit from this approach. For those who want to follow this up contact the DAMS (Dental Amalgam Mercury Syndrome) Society, 1701 Buffalo Dancer Tr NE, Albuquerque, NM 87112-4808. The phone number is 505-332-3252 and fax 505-332-3263. There is also a wealth of info on the Web. Go to any search engine and type in "dental amalgam mercury" and follow the links. California, Canada and many European countries have issued cautionary notes about Mercury amalgams so, PUHLEEZE, let's not hear about how amalgams are "safe" for everyone. They simply aren't.

Gary Lea
Kelowna, BC, Canada




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Re : Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams --- gary w lea
Posted by Renee Urban ® , Mar 04,2001,12:10 Top of Thread Archive
Gary,
What I find interesting about your case is how your SD had nothing to do with the "traditional" channels. Removing your mercury dental amalgams obviously worked for you. Marilyn Morrison had a similar experience by having had surgery for a poor bite jaw/misalignment. This just shows how complicated this can be and how no stone can go unturned. I'm glad to hear that your speech has gotten better.

Renee




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Re : Re: Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams --- Renee Urban
Posted by Lynne Martinez ® , Mar 04,2001,18:43 Top of Thread Archive
Renee,

Oh, so true. SD (and dystonia more so) is extremely complex and all of us are different. You said it so well!

I've written on the BB before about mercury amalgams...many months ago...but I'll say it again since it fits with this thread. My dentist of the past 17 years has always been "state-of-the-art." He was too much so for some of his patients but I've gone along with him because we were born in the same week and I like him and have always trusted him and he helped me be smarter about my own teeth. Thus I had my mercury amalgams replaced gradually, way before my SD started.

I believe that "toxins" (a category which mercury amalgams might possibly fall into) can prompt a "secondary" case of SD. Substantial research has shown this. My case, however, is idiopathic ("primary") thus not caused by toxins in any form. As you said, it's complicated and important for everyone to figure out their own case. It took me over six years to figure out the origins of mine so I respect this journey.

--Lynne




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Re : Re: Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams --- Lynne Martinez
Posted by Joan Carole ® , Mar 04,2001,19:57 Top of Thread Archive
Lynne,

How is it that you were able to rule out toxins all together when you determined the cause of your SD? Sorry, but I don't remember in our conversations your findings for the actual cause. Even though you had the amalgams removed before your SD started, the toxins from the mercury/silver amalgams had already been in you body for years. I'm just putting ideas out here. It appears that one needs to have several or many negative things impacting their body to get spasmodic dysphonia. That was the case with the CFS I had, and for many other diseases. -Joan




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Re : Re: Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams --- Joan Carole
Posted by Lynne Martinez ® , Mar 04,2001,21:59 Top of Thread Archive
Joan,

We can also talk about this off the BB; but, with my years of research into causalities of dystonia, I know I'm a genetic case. That's "idiopathic" (primary) v. secondary. As I've said before, my family is full of Parkinson's and other neurological problems which the researchers, over the years, have completely connected genetically. That knowledge is a benefit I've received over many years of personal research and going to symposiums to meet the docs who treat SD'ers and dystonia patients and the genetic researchers who are finding the links and the dystonia chromosomes (that's "genetic links"...not the Internet ones...LOL...kind of a "play on words"!).

I have a very clear genetic case of neurological-disease in my family and a "classic case" of AD-SD. Period. I did a ton of family research also to determine this, in addition to SD-research. Genealogical research and health research into living family-members backgrounds and interviewing family members about their grandparents and aunts and uncles. In other words...I was researching "cause of death."

In doing that, I found out alot I had not known about my family-history. Until I got SD, I did not know that about eight members of my family, in the second and third generations back, had died of Parkinson's. That was an important connection, as it is a VERY-high percentage. All I had known was that my grandmother died of Parkinson's the year after I was born. I still wear her engagement ring on my right hand as our connection. Since then, I have discovered that many people with SD have a family history of Parkinson's and related neurological disorders. Parkinson's is NOT the only neurological-disease I have in my family genealogy, however.

Some SD and dystonia cases can be confusing so I realize others are not so "fortunate." If you can call my severe case "fortunate." I also am very clear on the trigger of my case, due to the timing. Took me many years to figure it all out; but, after I'd completed my research, it was so very clear. And, when I figured it all out, it freed me.

When I was freed from my own case and I figured out why it had happened to me, that's when I started working to help others with SD.

So, it was not old mercury amalgams or any other environmental cause in my case. My genetic connections are crystal clear. I doubt anyone on the BB wants to read the entire history of my family-genetics (four generations back) and how I figured this whole thing out over many years. You'll just have to take my word for it.

--Lynne




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Re : Re: Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams --- Lynne Martinez
Posted by Joan Carole ® , Mar 05,2001,12:31 Top of Thread Archive
Lynne,

Thanks for the clarity on your case. I know you talked about the genetic connection back when we met, but my memory escapes me. Probably all that mercury in my brain! You know, many of you might think this sounds far-fetched, but I know my body has been damaged by the types of dental work I've had done. Whether this has contributed to my SD is still unknown. I admire both you and Gary for your research, and hope that I too someday will know what caused me to lose my greatest asset, my voice. Take care. -Joan




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Re : Re: Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams --- Joan Carole
Posted by Lynne Martinez ® , Mar 05,2001,19:37 Top of Thread Archive
Joan,

As I always say...it's good for patients to do the research to discover their own cases. Speaking for myself, it does free you when you get to the bottom of your own case.

I know that you are dealing with personal trauma with possibly losing your powerful singing voice. The thing is though, with most of us folks with SD, most of us had to use our voices for our careers. I can't work in my field any more due to losing my voice in 1991. I used to have to make major presentations (to represent huge software projects for a major corporation) on a daily basis. Haven't been able to do it since.

Your case is particularly sensitive because you used your voice in both your career as a high-powered sales rep and also, in your avocation, as a powerful singer. I really feel for you.

Unfortunately...once we get SD (and yours/my cases were both severe), we need to move on and just do the best we can for ourselves. You and I have the "need our voices for our careers" in common. Many SD'ers have that in common. There are so many of us who are lawyers, teachers, managers, sales people...who need our voices every minute and hour of every day. SD cuts us off....often in our prime.

I'm sad for the possible loss of your singing voice though. I am only a shower-singer. I know you had a beautiful singing voice. My singing-voice was never that way even though I needed the voice to work.

Also, I respect people who are looking for cause. I found my cause in 1997 but none of this is a perfect-answer. It's a complex disorder. We can never be sure and we just have to move on.

--Lynne




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Re : Re: Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams --- Lynne Martinez
Posted by Kristina Gomez ® , Mar 06,2001,11:36 Top of Thread Archive
Joan, many (if not all) of us have not known you before your SD, so I would have to disagree that you have lost your most important asset. There is definitely more to you than your voice, you're a beautiful lady, both inside and out. In my opinion, you could use a little refocusing/reassessing of your strengths.



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Re : Re: Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams --- Joan Carole
Posted by Steph ® , Mar 06,2001,14:41 Top of Thread Archive
Dear Joan,
Your greatest asset was your voice, I'm sorry it happened. Sometimes I feel the same way. But please understand that you probably have other great elements, some you may not have even discovered, and do not mourn what you do not have too much. Maybe there is hope after all. It is not your fault, nor probably dental work's. Best wishes, Steph



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Re : Re: Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams --- Lynne Martinez
Posted by Dawn F. Smith ® , Mar 10,2001,20:10 Top of Thread Archive
Lynne,

I can back you up on the genetic theory, also. Same here...an unbelievable family history of Neurological disorders, all on my mother's side of the family. Several cases of Parkinsons, Multiple Schlerosis, Tourette's Syndrome and several cases of Tics in various localized areas. I also had an aunt who died when I was young but I remember having an "odd voice", other family members say it was virtually the same as mine.




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Re : Re: Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams --- Dawn F. Smith
Posted by Lynne Martinez ® , Mar 11,2001,21:54 Top of Thread Archive
Dawn,

Your story is fascinating. Thanks for sharing it. All my "genetic-history" of neurological syndromes is also on my mom's side.

Once again, I hesitate to say you are "lucky" to know this (but we always have to take a positive-spin) however I would have considered myself lucky if I had known and understood all of this earlier or had any memory of it. It would have saved me alot of time and anguish trying to figure out "why me?" Incredible that you remember someone in your family with voice-issues! I haven't found one of those yet.

All I knew up until I got SD was that my maternal grandmother died of Parkinson's in 1948. I never knew her but I have been told I look like her and have her feisty personality. She survived a bullet-wound to the chest in 1908 due to a "love-triangle" when one man shot her and then killed himself (the other guy was my grandfather). It made the papers all over Northern California for many weeks as she fought for her life. HEY, that's a woman after my own heart! I'm proud to be related to her even though I inherited her nasty, feisty neurology.

Imagine my surprise in 1996 when I started researching the family and also discovered that her father and uncle also had Parkinson's as did other aunts and uncles and cousins. Wow...what a discovery. If I had not gotten SD, I would have never known that! Who ever talks about their old aunt who used to shake? When someone shook, people in the family wrote them off as crazy or something. Also, there are several instances of schizophrenia in my cousin-population (including my mother's schizophrenic first-cousin who is an extremely brilliant author and PhD but a failure as a human). Some people don't admit these things when you try to research your family-history so it wouldn't surprise me if there were cases I don't know about. I continue to believe that all of this is related genetically (with a clear pattern), at least in some of our cases.

Thanks Dawn!

--Lynne




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Re : Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams --- gary w lea
Posted by Joan Carole ® , Mar 04,2001,15:41 Top of Thread Archive
Hi Gary,

That's an amazing and eye-opening story you posted. My God, what IF mercury dental amalgams do contribute to the demise of the voice, and more specifically, SD! Over the last few years I've had alot of dental problems, included periodontal surgery, root canals, etc. Although dentists use mouth "dams" when they drill, I'm sure some of the amalgam gets filtered into the tissues of the mouth and vocal chord area. In addition to that, I had a chronic sinus infection which kept a steady flow of phlegm passing over the amalgams into my throat. (Sorry to those folks with weak stomachs.)I still have two amalgams left, which I will have removed soon.

Mercury dental amalgams (silver/mercury) used for fillings are the most harmful metals used by dentists. According the the book, Alternative Medicine, The Definitive Guide, compiled by The Burton Goldberg Group, "mercury has been recognized as a poison since the 1500s, and yet mercury amalgams have been used in dentistry since the 1820s. They are still being used today even though the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) declared scrap dental amalgam a hazardous waste in 1988. Even the American Dental Assoc., which has so far refused to ban amalgams, now instructs dentists to "know the potential hazards and symptoms of mercury exposure such as the development of sensitivity and neuropathy," to use a no-touch technique for handling the amalgam..."

In Germany, the sale and manufacture of amalgams has been prohibited since 1992. In Sweden, amalgams are not used in pregnant women, and Sweden promises to ban amalgams entirely as soon as a suitable replacement is found. Until then, the government pays 50 percent of the cost for removal of amalgams. In the United States little is being done to deal with the effects of mercury amalgams because most dentists still maintain that they are safe. They continue to place mercury in their patients' mouths even though the metal is more toxic than arsenic.

Gary, I'm happy for you that your voice has returned. I'm also pleased that your experience with Dr. Cooper was positive and that his exercises are helping you. I'm sure he'd love to hear that. Thanks again for sharing this important information.
Best - Joan

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Re : Re: Mercury amalgams and SD,could it be??? --- Joan Carole
Posted by gary w lea ® , Mar 05,2001,00:54 Top of Thread Archive
Joan, thank you for fleshing out the actions of several of the European and US agencies re mercury amalgams. With reference to some of the other comments: there is no known history of neurological difficulties in my family history, and I had every conceivable treatment effort for my SD in the 3 to 4 years post-diagnosis, ie, chiropractic x 2, massage therapy x 2 (still ongoing), physiotherapy x 2, cranial-sacral therapy, hypnosis x 2, acupuncture x 2, naturopathy x 2, allergy testing, speech therapy, biofeedback, Feldenkrais, the Alexander technique, Ayurveda, yoga, meditation, magnet therapy -- none of which produced significant or sustained benefit. I also had an MRI and CT scan which were negative, ie demonstrated no neuropathology ( I have both the resources and the determination to "get to the bottom" of what caused my SD; I have never accepted that it happened for "no reason" and I was determined ,if possible, to discover the cause). At this time I am reasonably certain that my SD was related to poor vocal hygiene (reactive to the adverse effects of my mercury amalgams) and , secondarily, certain food allergies. Very subjectively I would attribute my difficulties 60-70% to the amalgams, 10% to the allergies, and the balance to poor vocal hygiene driven, however, by the mercury amalgam toxicity, ie, I had developed poor vocal habits to compensate for the speech difficulties I had begun to experience possibly as early as my undergraduate years at university. I had a chronic tickle in my throat and all too often cleared my throat before speaking; I also spoke far too low in my throat. A decade before my diagnosis I noticed, though no one else did, a tighter vocal presentation. About 3 months prior to my voice "tanking" my dentist wrongly placed a gold crown over an old amalgam which caused a greater dumping of mercury into my body. I was unable to speak at all with any ease whether I was alone, talking to my dog or whatever; it simply did not matter, and there was no variability in my vocal function. I had to give up teaching College and my practice of psychology was threatened. Fortunately, my in-office colleague is a speech therapist and she diagnosed me with SD. My first visit with an ENT and my first botox were on the same day in Jan 1992; the rest is history.

Again I think that the issue of mercury toxicity in SD and other neurological disorders deserves more attention than it has in the medical community (which is nil). And I've never had a good explanation for why mercury is deemed to be a hazardous waste out of your mouth but a safe product inside your mouth, or why dental professionals and paraprofessionals have higher scores on neuropsychological impairment than their peers. But I digress.

Once again I caution that there is no guarantee that having your amalgams out will restore your vocal function. If you have more than 2 amalgams, however, I would consider it worthwhile to go to a mercury-free dentist to discuss your concerns. My bias is that whether or not your voice improves you will have removed a known neurotoxin from your body and THAT is worth the cost (which may come to $5,000 give or take $2,000 depending on your particular situation , but then I spent $5,000 a week on Dr. Cooper's therapy!).

Best wishes to all,
Gary Lea




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Re : Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams --- gary w lea
Posted by Lib Haywood ® , Mar 05,2001,08:40 Top of Thread Archive
Gary: I agree your dental work can make you very sick. I had major dental work done the Spring before I started having the voice problem in May, 1987. As the voice became worse I also started having spasms of pain in my legs and back. My arms and hands were becoming numb and I was diagnosed with Carpal Tunnel, Spinal Senosis (sp?)and Vertigo. My health had deteriorated until I could not play golf nor do house work. The dentist laughed when I suggested it might be coming from the dental work. I asked for a breakdown of materials used in my mouth
I found I had thirteen different metals in my mouth in addition to the silver fillings. After talking with numerous people who had recovered their health after changing their dental work, I had all the metal removed from my mouth. I began to recover immediately and within six months all the pain, dizziness, and numbness had gone away but I did not recover my voice. I have always been very healthy and have never been ill (except for a cold or virus) nor had an operation until I had Dr. Berke's surgery. That is why when I started having the voice and other problems, I looked for why? I agree everyones' body is different and what helps one person may not help another.



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Re : Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams --- gary w lea
Posted by Dawn F. Smith ® , Mar 10,2001,20:04 Top of Thread Archive
Just out of sheer curiosity...I have a mouthful of old fillings, most done in the 60's but I have no idea what type they are or what is or isn't in them. How could I find out???



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Re : Re: Dr. Cooper success stories and mercury amalgams --- Dawn F. Smith
Posted by gary w lea ® , Mar 11,2001,21:56 Top of Thread Archive
More than likely your fillings are mercury amalgam in nature , if they go back to the 1960's. Look in a mirror; if they are "silver" in appearance they are very likely mercury-silver amalgams. To find out for sure you will need to check with your dentist.



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