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Posted by: Maria ®
10/06/2008, 06:38:05


Hi!

I honestly remember reading very initiated posts about the connection between the center in the brain that controls movement and antidepressants on this BB. I think it was as far back as in 2005. But I can't find any convincing posts about this topic when I search the archive, even if I go back to the year 2003.

I've tried to search with the following words: SSRI, ssri, antidepressants, anti-depressants, antidepreassant. I know that I, myself, posted something about ssri in 2005/2006??!!

Does anyone have any suggestion on how to find these old "treasures" on antidepressants?

I'm (again) up against MD:s that want to put me on antidepressants because I'm completely exhausted and on a sick-leave. But I certainly don't want my SD to aggravate even more!! My voice already got so bad on antidepressants in 2005 (I tried three different makes). I also got tremors both in my voice and in my hand from the medication. I don't feel depressed.

Thanks!
Maria




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Posted by: Hoarse Whisperer ®
10/06/2008, 11:15:01


Maria,

After you type in your search words, do you also check the "search in message body" box? Otherwise, the search will only look for the headline and author.

Hope this helps.

Lori
ABSD since 2003
North Texas




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Posted by: Maria ®
10/06/2008, 18:17:10


Thanks Lori!

Yes, I do check the "search in message body" box. I must be doing something else wrong...

By the way, I got a very strange explanation from a neurologist today. She said that antidepressants can't do any harm, if the SD is treated by Botox. I don't understand the logic?!!

When I asked about the tremors I got in my right hand (from the antidepressants), the stiffness and the tearing she said that people taking placebo also get side-effects. She was 100% sure that the dystonia is not spreading into my hand/arm because you can only have ONE form of dystonia.

I'm getting a little tired of the lack of knowlegde.

Well, my "placebo side-effect" tremor and aggravated SD has stayed with me since the year 2005 when I took the medication for a couple of months....

Maria
ABSD, Scandinavia




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Posted by: Hoarse Whisperer ®
10/06/2008, 21:43:47


Maria,

It sounds like your neurologist could use some education about SD.

At the Annual National Spasmodic Dysphonia Association Symposium this past March, Dr. Christie Ludlow from the National Institutes of Health made a fabulous presentation about spasmodic dysphonia. According to her, approximately 10-20 percent of people with spasmodic dysphonia have a lifetime risk of developing another form of dystonia.

In Karen Adler Feeley's book, "Easier Done than Said -- Living with a Broken Voice", out of 758 survey respondents, 14.6 percent indicated that, in addition to SD, they also have another form of dystonia (page 158).

Here is information taken directly from the National Institutes of Health Website:

Spasmodic dysphonia may co-occur with other movement disorders such as blepharospasm (excessive eye blinking and involuntary forced eye closure), tardive dyskinesia (involuntary and repetitious movement of muscles of the face, body, arms and legs), oromandibular dystonia (involuntary movements of the jaw muscles, lips and tongue), torticollis (involuntary movements of the neck muscles), or tremor (rhythmic, quivering muscle movements).

In some cases, spasmodic dysphonia may run in families and is thought to be inherited. Research has identified a possible gene on chromosome 9 that may contribute to the spasmodic dysphonia that is common to certain families. In some individuals the voice symptoms begin following an upper respiratory infection, injury to the larynx, a long period of voice use, or stress.

Lori
ABSD since 2003
North Texas


Related link: http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/voice/spasdysp.asp

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Posted by: Gary Lea ®
11/28/2008, 00:42:01


Check the NSDA web site for more info but some of us have multiple foci for our dystonias, i.e. torticollis (neck) blepharospasm (eyelids), hands, you name it. As a psychologist with 30 years experience I would not expect placebo to cause tremors. I think you owe it to yourself to get a second opinion. SSRI's can, in rare cases, cause tremors. There is research to show that. Years ago I had an MD see me for marital therapy who coincidentally developed dystonia on an SSRI antidepressant. He researched the meds he was on, found that they were likely causing his tremors and quit them (over the next few weeks slowly) and the tremors stopped.

Gary




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Posted by: Hoarse Whisperer ®
10/06/2008, 21:58:04


According to the WE MOVE (Worldwide Education and Awareness for Movement Disorders) website:

Drugs That May Cause Dystonia:

Drugs belonging to a class called "dopamine receptor blocking agents" (DRBAs) can cause dystonia. The following is a list of such drugs that can cause dystonia.

Generic (Trade Names)

Acetophenazine (Tindal®)
Amoxapine (Asendin®)
Chlorpromazine (Thorazine®)
Fluphenazine (Permitil®, Prolixin®)
Haloperidol (Haldol®)
Loxapine (Loxitane®, Daxolin®)
Mesoridazine (Serentil®)
Metaclopramide (Reglan®)
Molindone (Lindone®, Moban®)
Perphenazine (Trilafon® or Triavil®)
Piperacetazine (Quide®)
Prochlorperazine (Compazine®, Combid®)
Promazine (Sparine®)
Promethazine (Phenergan®)
Thiethylperazine (Torecan®)
Thioridazine (Mellaril®)
Thiothixene (Navane®)
Trifluoperazine (Stelazine®)


Related link: http://www.wemove.org/dys/dys_dmc.html

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Posted by: Hoarse Whisperer ®
10/06/2008, 22:40:42


Here is more good information from the NSDA website:

Is spasmodic dysphonia a form of dystonia?

Yes, spasmodic dysphonia is a focal form of dystonia. Dystonia is the general neurological term for a variety of problems characterized by excessive contraction of muscles with associated abnormal movements and postures. Other focal dystonias include blepharospasm (involving the eyelids), oromandibular dystonia, (involving the jaw and tongue), cervical dystonia or spasmodic torticollis (involving the neck), and writer's cramp (involving the hand). These forms of dystonia may appear in combination with spasmodic dysphonia.


Related link: http://www.dysphonia.org/faq.asp?nav=spa#spa

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Posted by: Hoarse Whisperer ®
10/06/2008, 22:42:07


Here is more information about drugs that can cause dystonia from the netdoctor.co.uk website. This article was written by Dr. Helen Hanson and Dr. K Ray Chaudhuri, from the Movement Disorders Unit, King's College Hospital, London.

What drugs can cause dystonia?

Certain drugs have been implicated in causing dystonic reactions or dystonia. This form of dystonia is referred to as secondary or drug induced dystonia. Some drugs may not cause dystonia but may aggravate the pre-existing disorder. Patients should avoid these drugs.

The list of drugs causing drug induced dystonic reactions is long but includes:

antidepressants (amitriptyline, Amoxapine (Asendis), bupropion, clomipramine (eg Anafranil), doxepin (eg Sinequan), fluoxetine (eg Prozac), imipramine, nortriptyline (Allegron), trimipramine (Surmontil) and trazodone (eg Molipaxin)).

anti-anxiety agents (alprazolam (Xanax), buspirone (eg Buspar))

anti-nausea/vomiting agents (metoclopramide (eg Maxolon), prochlorperazine (eg Stemetil)).

neuroleptics (chlorpromazine (eg Largactil), clozapine (eg Clozaril), fluphenazine (eg Moditen), haloperidol (eg Haldol), perphenazine (Fentazin), promazine, trifluoperazine (eg Stelazine)). The dystonia associated with neuroleptics is often called tardive dystonia.

other drugs include the psychiatric drug lithium (eg Priadel), midazolam used in anaesthetics, phenytoin (eg Epanutin) an anticonvulsant, promethazine (eg Phenergan) an anti-allergy drug and verapamil (eg Securon) an antihypertensive.


Related link: http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/facts/dystonia.htm

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Posted by: Maria ®
10/07/2008, 13:50:49


WOW Lori!!

Everything is there. Black on white.

Tha main reason as to why "everyone" wants to put me on antidepressants is that I am completely exhausted (not depressed) - so I would not have been able to do all the research you did in my place right now. I will print your posts and take the information to the neurologist, and to other doctors as well.

How can I ever thank you for providing me with all this??!!

I feel a little better thinking that others will benefit from this information through out the years, as this thread now appears when someone is looking up "antidepressants" in the archives :-).

With gratitude,
Maria
ABSD, Scandinavia




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Posted by: Hoarse Whisperer ®
10/07/2008, 18:22:21


Maria,

You're very welcome. Glad I could help.

Rather than printing my posts for the doctor, I would recommend printing the information directly from the links I included. All this information comes from very credible sources - The National Institutes of Health (NIH), National Spasmodic Dysphonia Association (NSDA), Worldwide Education and Awareness for Movement Disorders (WE MOVE), London's King's College Hospital (Movement Disorders Unit).

Good luck to you!

Lori




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Posted by: Maria ®
10/08/2008, 05:25:14


... and so I will!

Thanks again!!
Maria




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Posted by: Barbara S. White ®
01/14/2009, 00:49:08


I have one thing to say about antidepressants and anti anxiety medication. It does help but it is extremely addictive and it's very difficult to break. Think twice.


Be Blessed,
Barbara White god4me@charter.net




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Posted by: Nancy Fallon ®
01/14/2009, 06:47:48


It's been a few years since I took any antidepressants, but I do remember developing a tremor of my right hand during that time. When I mentioned it to my doctor he did not seem concerned and I just let it go. Later I began having problems with my voice. At that time I started doing some research and asked him if it could have been caused by the antidepressant (I think I had stopped taking it by then). He said no, but he did at least refer me to a specialist for my voice. That's when I was diagnosed with AD/SD. No one wanted to admit that the antidepressant had anything to do with what was going on, but I still think there was a connection. As a health care professional myself, I know everyone is afraid of being sued, and I think that sometimes causes doctors to be overly cautious in what they will tell you. All I was trying to do was figure out if there was something that I was doing that could be causing my problems with my voice and hand.



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