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Posted by: Lib Haywood ®

10/17/2002, 15:23:52

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I had lunch today with Dr. Berke's fifteen patient for the SLAD surgery.

The surgery was done in 1995 when she was 31 years old. I met her in 2000 prior to my surgery in 2001. She sounded wonderful in 2000 but she told me she was having some bad days which continued to come more often over the last couple of years. She went back to see Dr. Berke and he told her that since the earlier operations, he had changed the procedure. He said he would reoperate and bring her up to date. My friend did that last month. The operation was suppose to be a couple of hours but lasted four and a half hours. Dr. Berke found scar tissue which had to be removed. He also found that the nerve which had been altered in the first operation had grown around and connected itself with the nerve causing the spasms. He corrected this made the other adjustments necessary. She sounds wonderful now and is very pleased.

She related that Dr. Berke had reoperated on two men and two women (she being one of the women)since he started the SLAD surgery but he has not had to reoperate on any of the patients who had the operation after he changed the procedure. I believe she said he changed it in 1999. I thought all of this was very interesting since all of us wonder what the future holds for our voice.

I would be interested in hearing any updates from patients who have had the SLAD surgery.







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Posted by: jodie schmidt ®

10/17/2002, 18:50:24

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Hi Lib, As you probably recall I had my SLAD surgery in March of this year and my voice is doing great. I don't have any trouble swallowing at all. I really can't yell - but that's ok. I don't have anything to yell about! The only time that my voice sounds strange is if I am lying down and trying to talk. I'm not sure what that means but since I am generally sleeping when in a flat position - that's ok too!

Jodie






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Posted by: Sharon Keating ®

10/19/2002, 10:52:25

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Hi Jodie and ALL - I had the wonderful opportunity to experience very good results from Dr. Berke's surgery June 4th, 2002. At almost 5 months post op, I do have a fairly good volume and clarity except when I am lying down or very tired. It seems as though my cords just collapse when I am lying down and trying to talk on the phone.

Other than that, the only problem I experience is that heavy mucous/drainage in my throat from time to time....this month being the worst. I am assuming it will pass with the allergy season, but it does play a large part in my articulation efforts.

I am extremely happy with my results and would do it over on a moment's notice..... My life has changed dramatically as a result of the surgery....and all for the good.

Thanks to everyone who supported me during my moments of anxiety.... first trying to make the surgery decision and then with postop questions.







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Posted by: Lylia Bennett ®

10/17/2002, 20:35:43

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This is good information to share. Apparently the voice did not take long to heal following this surgery. Keep us posted. Lylia Bennett






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Posted by: jan joiner ®

10/17/2002, 22:02:25

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Lib, this is great and all of us who have had the surgery or not need to be made aware of these type things. It is good to know that Dr. Berke could go back and make possible changes if neccessary in some cases or individuals.

I haven't given much thought to scar tissue occurring, but that makes perfect sense. Being a felmale and having to go though several scar tissue removals from different surgeries myself, I can relate to this very well.

Please keep up the good work and encourage her to keep us posted on the BB.

Regards, Jan - Alabama - ADSD (severe) SLAD Surgery 6/01







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Posted by: john s. beeman ®

10/18/2002, 14:26:29

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Thank you so much for the update. I had my surgery done in 2000. I did not recover my voice. Did he say how he changed the procedure? As some know, Jeff Brode and I had our operations about a month apart and neither of us recovered our voice. While Dr. Berke has talked to me about doing further surgery, all my inquires lead me to believe that while my speaking voice might (maybe) improve some, my breathing might be impaired more than it is now. Impairment of my breathing makes the prospect of further surgery not too inviting. John

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Posted by: Lib Haywood ®

10/19/2002, 16:05:59

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John, I do not know all of the details of my friends latest surgery. If you think your breathing might be impaired with further surgery, I can understand your feelings. The first thing I noticed after I had the SLAD surgery was the fact that I could breath deeper. It was wonderful. I had not been able to breath deeply before the surgery. All of us are different so it is hard to judge what may or may not happen.

Lib Haywood, Charlotte, NC







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Posted by: john s. beeman ®

10/20/2002, 07:03:39

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While not intended to be a "technically correct" reply, essentially about 1/2 of my vocal cords seem to be laying against each other - not moving - thus reducing my airway passage by 1/2. The "back" 1/2 is apart - again - not moving and it is thru this section that I draw all breath. Why? Who knows. John






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Posted by: Lynne Martinez ®

10/21/2002, 15:47:36

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John,

Thanks for this description. It's so important we all work with our docs and learn the "syntax" re how our vocal mechanism works, sounds, reacts and (as you have discussed) how our breathing is affected while trying to vocalize (or in other situations). Example: I can't walk and talk at the same time but I could prior to vocal surgery!

This is what I'm going through recently myself. The impacts on breathing. My new oto says things similar to what you describe above. I obviously have one paralyzed cord (due to RLN surgery almost 7 years back) but NOW the scopes seem to show the active one "laying on" the other one.

"Breathing" is my biggest problem lately. I could live, in the past, with a sub-par voice. That's what happens with SD. Our voices are never the same. Lately, my voice sounds like yours did when we talked on the phone in March. What a fun disorder we all have.

I am being offered additional treatments and surgery also but (*He--*), after going through what I've (we've) been through, I'm afraid to try anything new. If my breathing gets any worse, it's a very serious problem. I'll take *breathing* over *speaking,* any day.

I just returned from an awesome dystonia-related week-end symposium (not specific to SD) and have renewed appreciation for the breathing capacity I still have left.

Thanks John. What you share on this BB is so valuable.

--Lynne (AD/SD; Northern California)







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Posted by: Jo Ann Flynn ®

10/27/2002, 23:12:40

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Breathing and talking...............my FAVORITE things to do! When I had my surgery (June 20, 2002 - SLAD/R) I could also breathe deeper....I also have Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (Severe Asthma and chronic Bronchitis). SO, breathing is NOT one of my best points. And, right now I have a really bad sinus infection and drip, drip into my lungs. Coughing so hard, I thought it would pop out my NEW GOOD nerves! :( NOT happy thoughts there either........but through it all.....last Tuesday.......my new little voice FINALLY came through and is getting better every day..........I WISH I could say the same thing for the sinus infection!

Perhaps, another doctor could have some some other options about your surgeries? They all do seem to have some different little ideas on the subject. I do recommend Dr. Mark Courey at Vanderbilt in Nashville. He did my surgery, his very first! Dr. Damrose at Dr. Burke's office told me when I first heard about the surgery when I moved back to California that the surgery wouldn't work if you had a tremor also and I did and very severe at that. I talked Dr. Courey into doing the surgery, He has been my doctor for many years with the Botox. I came back to Nashville for the surgery. I am back now for my post op appointment on Wednesday. For me it was worth the try and I did know and realize all the risks that I was talking. Thank God....that all has worked out VERY well! I couldn't be more pleased. I can talk to Dr. Courey when I see him on Wednesday and give him a brief rundown on your problems also and see what he thinks. If you wouldn't mind?

Let me know.

Jo Ann Flynn AD/SD with Severe Tremor (1981) Surgery SLAD/R June 20, 2002

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Posted by: Doris St. Clair ®

11/02/2002, 12:19:37

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Hi JoAnn, I just read your post and am happy that your SLAD surgery went well. I am responding to your message because I think that I have either asthma or chronic bronchitis. I have a constant cough even though I quit smoking 4 years ago, and have a constant irritation in my chest, although I do not get short of breath. I had a breathing test done several years ago and my lung capacity was fine but something is making me cough and causing the irritating feeling in my chest. I probably should have more tests done but am not sure which kind I need. I had a chest xray when I had my car accident 4 years ago and my lungs were clear at that time. If you have any advice for me please let me know.

Doris St. Clair AD/SD VA







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Posted by: jo ann flynn ®

11/04/2002, 21:00:45

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Hi Doris!

Sorry for the long delay in answering you post. When I first moved to Kentucky from California, I immediately got to a point where I couldn't breathe anymore. I went to a doctor here and finally to an allergist. He diagnosed the asthma. My Mother also had COPD and other family members. So, try and see your doctor and get retested...there is also a dystonia in the diaphram, although it is rare (according to my neurologist). So, my best advise is to see your physician and perhaps a referral to an Asthma / Allergy Clinic and get retested. :)

Thank you. The surgery (post) is coming along great and my voice is still getting stronger everyday! YIPPIE! :)

Thanks again and good luck and please let me know how you are doing.

Jo Ann







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Posted by: Barbara Oberholtzer ®

10/21/2002, 19:10:03

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Lib,

That was so interesting to read that Dr. Berke could correct your friend's problem. I am still enjoying a good voice since my surgery two years ago last August. Most times, I forget about my voice. There are times when I am really tired when it seems weaker or a little tighter but not very often. It's not perfect, but I am so pleased with my results.

A friend of mine recently had the SLAD surgery only on one side. Her doctor thought this might work and she was his first patient for the surgery. She did well for a few weeks but is going back to the tightness and spasms and exhaustion from trying to speak. She will either have to go back to botox injections or additional surgery on the other side. Needless to say, she is very disappointed and although she knew it might not work, dreads the thought of more surgery or the ups and downs of botox. Thought this might be interesting to others contemplating surgery in the future .







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Posted by: Lib Haywood ®

10/22/2002, 16:47:20

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Thanks to all of you who have answered this inquiry and shared your thought and feelings. We all learn from each other. I can understand John and Jeff's feelings about additonal surgery. Breathing is one of our most important functions of life. I could breath better after surgery and John could not. We do not know why. I told my support group this month - "I still have SD - the operation has help me cope with it." It is not a cure but a tool which may help you cope with the problem.

Lib Haywood, Charlotte, NC - Southeast Regional Coordinator, NSDA







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