What is "functional" dysphonia?
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Posted by: ganache ®

01/04/2003, 14:35:46

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Hi-

I've been struggling with "asthma" and laryngitis symptoms for over a year, and it just keeps getting worse. Finally, my ENT is sending me to a speech therapist for an evaluation for functional dyphonia. Is this the same condition as SD?

Where can I find a qualified SLP? I live in Nassau County on Long Island, NY. My ENT is sending me to Long Island Jewish Hospital Speech center.

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Re: What is "functional" dysphonia? -- ganache Top of Thread Archive
Posted by: Lynne Martinez ®

01/04/2003, 19:51:12

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Hi Ganache,

Welcome to the NSDA bulletin board. You will find alot of information here, re what you deal with vocally.

You're lucky that you live where you live. Many experts there in NY, whereas there are not alot of experts in other areas.

To answer your question..."functional dysphonia" means (in medical terminology) that you have a vocal problem which is related to the way you are using your vocal mechanism. "Dysphonia" means a vocalization problem. "Functional" means that your vocal problem is due to mis-use of the laryngeal system. Such as "Muscle Tension Dysphonia."

Spasmodic Dysphonia is not purely a functional mis-use of the vocal system. It's a neurological disorder, also called "Laryngeal Dystonia" wherein the brain sends inaccurate signals to the vocal cords.

Hope you will be seeing a team of experts. Don't believe what the docs tell you until you get to a team of specialists which understands "the voice." You may have SD or maybe you don't. It's important to discover what you have, so that you can get the best treatment. I wish you luck on that.

In addition, there is a Spasmodic Dysphonia patient symposium, in Washington DC, in early March. March 8th. If you really want to find out what you have, and meet other vocal patients, that is the best place to be. You're in the East - thus fortunate to be so close to a major vocal patient conference.

Good wishes with your visits to the new doctors. Keep us posted.

--Lynne (AD/SD; No California)







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Re: Re: What is "functional" dysphonia? -- Lynne Martinez Top of Thread Archive
Posted by: ganache ®

01/05/2003, 12:12:43

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Lynne -

Thanks so much for your clear answer. On Monday, I'll make appointments with an SLP, and an NSDA Neurologist at Long Island Jewish Hospital (Dr. Marc Gordon). There doesn't seem to be any point in waiting. Medical people move at glacial speed.

Marian







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*Re: What is "functional" dysphonia? What indeed?*
Re: Re: What is "functional" dysphonia? -- Lynne Martinez Top of Thread Archive
Posted by: Richard Callen ®

01/05/2003, 16:13:35

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From previous:



"....To answer your question..."functional dysphonia" means (in medical terminology)(!) that you have a vocal problem which is related to the way you are using your vocal mechanism. "Dysphonia" means a vocalization problem. "Functional" means that your vocal problem is due to mis-use of the laryngeal system. Such as "Muscle Tension Dysphonia."...."



In a way. But "mis-use" will mean some kind of intentional action to many of the fine folks out there, who are not to blame for their own discomfort.



Richard Callen







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Re: *Re: What is "functional" dysphonia? What indeed?* -- Richard Callen Top of Thread Archive
Posted by: Lynne Martinez ®

01/05/2003, 19:44:53

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Thanks Richard,

You bring up an important subject that we all seem to face, with our medical professionals. So many of us are way ahead of the docs, so we have to educate them. And, clue them into new terminology. So many specialists seem to still use terminology that was replaced years ago.

Much of this plays out on this bulletin board. The subject you brought up (intentional abuse of the vocal system) is something most of us have heard at one time. None of this is intentional. It's just our way of being able to vocalize. Hopefully Marian will get a clearer diagnosis than "functional dysphonia."

In researching my own confusing case over the years, the implication of "doing something wrong" has surfaced periodically. Currently, my docs (who seem to be on top of things at this point) are saying that my false cords have fallen in upon my true cords, due to *compensatory mechanisms.* Probably true. I only have one vocal cord and have severe Spasmodic Dysphonia - thus, in order to talk at all, I probably put stress on various areas of my vocal system, non-intentionally, but it's what has been needed to get any sound out. Add that to age and it gets described as compensatory mechanisms.

Good subject for discussion. We vocal patients are not at fault. We're doing the best job we can to vocalize. Our laryngeal systems just failed (for functional/neurological/various/? reasons) and we need docs to work with us to figure it all out. A clear/accurate diagnosis, from an SD expert, is the best gift to all of us patients. Effective treatment helps alot too. Sure wish SD was easier to figure out.

--Lynne (AD/SD; Northern California)

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Posted by: Doris St. Clair ®

01/06/2003, 05:33:42

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Hi Everyone, Will botox work if one has "functional dysphonia", or does it only work if you have SD? I actually dianosed myself by researching the internet, and when I visited the voice clinic was not told that I had SD but that I did have some sort of dysphonia. I was also told that I could possibly have MS. I asked how I would know and he said he would see if the Botox worked and if it did then it would be clear that I did have SD. This was 8 years ago. The botox trip has been a roller coaster ride, only working about 60% of the time. I have AD/SD or at least that is what I have been treated for. However, a speech t. told me that I had muscle tension dysphonia. Go figure!!

Doris St. Clair AD?SD?







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Re:Re: What is "functional" dysphonia? Huh?
Re: Re: *Re: What is "functional" dysphonia? What indeed?* -- Lynne Martinez Top of Thread Archive
Posted by: Richard Callen ®

01/10/2003, 22:29:38

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How cornfusing. But for those wishing a diagnosis more specific than "speech problem", and who doesn't (I guess), hiring a "medical professional" of any stripe (they are usually yellow, but that's a topic for another post by yours truly, "Mr. Know-it-All"), is one way to go. Tell them what you are looking for. They are working for you, no matter if you pay them directly or indirectly. Try not to worry about someone who tells you that you are abusing your vocal mechanism. They are wrong. Go to the brightest people you can find/afford.



This seems like a good place to remind you all that more and more "cases" of SD can be diagnosed and thereby helped, by contributing to the NSDA. Many people today can lead less confusing lives thanks to the NSDA and the people who founded it and helped it to grow.



Richard Callen


None of the proceeds from donations to NSDA go to Richard Callen, his relatives or assignees.

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Re: Re:Re: What is "functional" dysphonia? Huh? -- Richard Callen Top of Thread Archive
Posted by: will blum ®

01/11/2003, 07:24:49

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Richard,

Thank you for reminding us to make a donation to NSDA. Money sent to NSDA is used for research and to get out information about SD. The NSDA sponsors this board and we can show our gratitude by making a donation.

Some of the new people on the bulletin board may not know the address of NSDA. The address of the National Spasmodic Dystonia Association is

National Spasmodic Dysphonia Association

One East Wacker Drive

Chicago, IL 60601-1905

Telephone 800-795-6732

fax 312-803-0138

Donations can be sent to the address above, or you can use a credit card online at this site. www.dysphonia.org/nsda/join

absd







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Posted by: ganache ®

01/17/2003, 13:50:13

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Thanks to everyone who responded to my posting.

On Friday, January 11, I had my "functional" dysphonia evaluated by a CCC-SLP at LIJ Hearing and Speech Center in New Hyde Park, NY. I definitely have dysphonia, and start speech therapy next week. She wouldn't elaborate on what type of dysphonia I have-the ENT told her it was "functional" so I don't expect her to say anything different; but I did ask her to keep an open mind. Her report should be available in another week.

I am very grateful to all of you, and to NSDA, for information on Dysphonia. At least I could ask intelligent questions, and know when I didn't get the response I needed. Thank you for confirming my suspicions of the word "functional;" I've previously had the experience of medical professionals blaming me (the patient) for an illness which they were unwilling/unable to diagnose.

Many of you have written of the struggle for a proper diagnosis. So, I have an appointment on Monday, January 20, with a Neurologist who does treat SD and is listed on the NSDA Healthcare Referral Database. I hope that he will confirm or eliminate a neurological cause for my dysphonia while I work on the speech therapy.

For those of you with Asthma and Dysphonia -

I have found that inhaled and nebulized medications are very, very harmful to my voice and throat; I no longer use them on a daily basis, but take oral Theophylline and Accolate. I also wear a Polartec scarf around my nose and mouth at all times when I leave my house; it warms the air and keeps my throat and lungs from instantly reacting to most triggers. It looks weird, but at least I can temporarily survive outside my house and decrease the Asthma medications.

I also use Proventil HFA for emergencies - the generic Albuterol is much too irritating for my throat, but something in the Proventil makes it less so.

Lastly, Doctors (especially ENT, Pulmonary, and Allergy) have latched on to GERD as the primary cause of everything that they can't immediately diagnose. No doubt GERD does cause some Asthma and Dysphonia. If you do not have the symptoms of GERD, and have been examined and tested by a Gastroenterologist, DON'T ACCEPT GERD AS THE DEFINITIVE CAUSE OF YOUR DISEASE. Keep fighting for a real diagnosis or find another Doctor.

Marian







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Posted by: Concerned lady ®

01/18/2003, 02:22:02

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Dear Marian,

I agree that people need to fight to get correctly diagnosed. But, I would like to say that some types of GERD can be a-symptomatic, meaning, that "heartburn" isn't necessarily present.

The type of "high up" GERD I'm talking about, is LPR (Laryngeal-pharyngeal reflux), and LPR is a huge factor, in causing or worsening:

asthma

sinus problems

voice problems

vocal cord dysfunction (VCD), also known as "laryngo-spasm"

I was quite surprised to find that I had this LPR, as did my husband. Our subtle clues were occasionally having "vomit-y" burps, with no nausea. We never suspected that inhaling the corrosive fumes from this "reflux" material could burn the vocal cords!

Usally, a fiberoptic laryngoscopy done by a Voice expert (ENT/ear, nose & throat doc) &/or an experienced SLP (Speech & Language Pathologist) will show some "objective" signs of LPR, such as (at least):

redness of vocal cords &/or surrounding areas (called "erythema")

swelling of vocal cords

extra mucus, sometimes "stranding" across/between the vocal cords

There's going to be a conference given by a voice expert named Nelson Roy, PhD, this spring, in Baltimore, Maryland. Dr. Roy will include how to tell the difference between Spasmodic Dysphonia & Muscle Tension Dysphonia! He will also teach "manual laryngeal muscle tension reduction techniques", such as "circum-laryngeal" massage. These techniques are briefly described on pages 4, 5, 9 & links pages of my VCD (non-profit) website.

If anyone is interested in attending this important voice Conference, look at page 8 of my website, for a link & phone number, to get details about Dr. Roy's conference. He normally practices & teaches, in Utah.

My website is called, "Can't Breathe? Suspect Vocal Cord Dysfunction!".

Sincerely,

Carol







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Posted by: ganache ®

01/18/2003, 13:19:31

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Carol -

Thanks so much for the info!

Marian






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