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Posted by: mike mcs ® 08/23/2002, 13:26:54 Author Profile Mail author |
hi first time user with adductor dysphonia. looking for a drug treatment. looking for input on any good experiences with neurontin and also dosages and effectiveness. seems to be several favorable comments in bb. thanks |
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Posted by: Lynne Martinez ® 08/24/2002, 01:48:11 Author Profile Mail author |
Mike, Since you asked: Different things work for different cases (severity, etc.) in different circumstances. I took Neurontin (900mgs/day) for 8 weeks and was just taken off it by my doctor as my voice/breathing got worse during that time. We couldn't tell what was going on (whether my dystonia was spreading or what) but we knew things were not improving so no point in continuing a med which was designed to help the spasms/straining...while my symptoms got worse. It helps some people but not me. Good luck in what you decide. Every patient has his/her own story and his/her own reaction. --Lynne (AD/SD; Northern California) |
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Posted by: Terry A. Howell ® 08/26/2002, 00:10:42 Author Profile Mail author |
I started Neurontin this spring and was gradually building up the dose. It drove me batty with the side effects (balance, etc.) I had 3 minor traffic accidents, which I indirectly contribute to Neurontin. I stopped it this summer and things returned back to "normal" for me. I still get Botox injections for AD Dysphonia that work well. I never noticed any benefit from Neurontin. Terry Howell
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Posted by: Anne Brett ® 08/24/2002, 07:02:15 Author Profile Mail author |
Welcome to the SD Bulletin Board Mike. You might like to take a look at the information given on Neurontin on the following Rx Drug Website http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/gabapent_wcp.htm This covers things like high incidence of cancer, vision problems, etc. over long term use of this drug - 2 years. You might also note that Neurontin is used in the treatment of Epilepsy or other related "seizure" disorders. Key word being "seizure". Dystonia (SD is a Focal Dystonia) is a neurological movement disorder causing "muscle spasms". Anne |
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Posted by: Donald Dunlap ® 08/24/2002, 15:16:17 Author Profile Mail author |
Mike, After having sd for 6 years and taking Botox injections every 3-4 months for that time period ,my doctor put me into an experimental program on Neurontin. I have been taking very very low dosage of 300mg per day (morning) and have regained my voice back to nearly 100% . It took several months to really have a profound impact but my progress continued and I have now been on the drug for 21 months. There are other medical studies which show that Neurontin is one of the safest drugs within its class. I personally have had not side effects at all. I have worked in the television industry for over 30 years and neurontin has allowed me to regain my ability to speak effectively on radio and television and before civic and community groups. For me it has been a blessing and I have heard from numberous others on this forum who have had simular results. My doctor has also had other patients who have responded very well and , like me no longer need Botox injections. For some folks it does not seem to work as with many other approachs to helping people with any condition. Bottom line for me is that I regained a NORMAL voice ( not a Botox voice ) and I feel great.
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Posted by: fancynancy ® 08/25/2002, 00:40:52 Author Profile Mail author |
Donald, very good news! Are you AB or AD SD? --fn--
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Posted by: Anne Brett ® 08/25/2002, 07:11:38 Author Profile Mail author |
Don, I'm curious. You said that your doctor put you on the Neurontin as an experimental program. Are you going to be taking Neurontin for ever and ever more, or at some point and time will you go off of it? The reason I ask this is that it's my understanding that those of us with any type of voice disorder develop compensatory 'tricks' to overcome speech production difficulties. Sometimes these compensatory 'tricks' are bad habits that we've gotten into; but then by the same token,through voice/speech therapy, we manage to develop beneficial compensatory 'tricks' to give us a more normal sounding voice. I understand that these compensatory 'tricks' can either be done on a conscious or sub-concious level. Through speech/voice therapy one attempts to achieve 'good' and 'beneficial' voice habits so that their speech production comes easily to them without so much concentration on exactly what they are doing when they produce voice. Is your speech production to this point yet? You didn't indicate that you were still having any problems and doing well with public speaking situations, etc. From the information I've gleaned at the various SD Symposiums, it seems to be the norm for a patient with a voice disorder to be given an aerodynamic analysis (flow pattern of phonation) evaluation. This is where you talk into a microphone and/or see your voice on a computer screen (much like the graph that appears on an EEG machine when given a Botox injection). This evaluation will show the flow pattern of speech. This evaluation definitely picks up the speech breaks that occur in a patient with spasmodic dysphonia. Those breaks almost always occur on the long sounding vowel words. Did you go through speech/voice therapy to learn any helpful way to alleviate these definite breaks that occur in a patient with SD, or has the Neurontin alleviated those? It's great that you've regained your NORMAL voice again. That is truly a blessing. Anne
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Posted by: Kim ® 08/26/2002, 03:39:56 Author Profile Mail author |
Anne,you wrote:"Through speech/voice therapy one attempts to achieve 'good' and 'beneficial' voice habits so that their speech production comes easily to them without so much concentration on exactly what they are doing when they produce voice." I just have to point out again that the key word here is "attempts" for many of us, such things are of no use whatsoever, and for some, they actually make things *worse*, so as with any other form of therapy, everyone has to find their own things that work, and what works for one person, may not work, or may even make things worse for another, and that there is nothing that works for everyone. Kim |
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Posted by: Lorraine ® 08/24/2002, 18:26:24 Author Profile Mail author |
Hi Mike I started neurontin the first week of June--900 mil a day. My last botox injection was the previous April 30th. My botox injections were only lasting 2 months. Now I'm still going strong (my doctor increased my dosage to 1800 mil a day) What I intend on doing is asking my doctor about clonzepam (?)-----seems people take this with the neurontin with quite a bit of success---and then I would like to decrease the neurontin and see what happens. I would love to get down to as little medication as possible, and still be able to communicate clearly. I see the doc in a couple of weeks----I'll keep you posted. |
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Posted by: Ida Neary ® 08/25/2002, 09:36:50 Author Profile Mail author |
I had successful Botox shots for 10 years before they began to become less and less effective. I went 3 years with no effect from the injections (we tried an injection every 4-5 months or so during that 3 years) I started taking Neurontin 300 mg twice a day with clonazpam. I couldn't tell any difference, but after I was on it for a couple of months, the next Botox shot "took". It only lasted about 3 weeks, but it was a nice reprieve. I don't know if the Neurontin helped or that the impovement was caused by the much higher dosage of Botox. I am still taking the Neurontin and Clonazpam, but the spasms are coming back. Don't have any idea if the next Botox injection will take or not. Hopeing!!! Ida AD/SD 25 yrs. |
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Posted by: Teresa Morgan ® 08/26/2002, 15:57:23 Author Profile Mail author |
I have been taking Neurontin for almost one year. I have had very good results. I still have a few breaks in my voice from time to time. I take 100mg three times each day. I also take .5mg Lorazepam 2 times each day. I am pleased with the results I have. My speech is clear in most cases. Sometimes when I'm in a stressful situation, my voice is not as predictable. I can order at the drive through at MacDonalds now. Also, I can order at restaurants. Those two things were very annoying when no voice came out at all. Teresa Morgan |
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Posted by: June Sutton ® 08/26/2002, 22:27:27 Author Profile Mail author |
I began Neurontin last week. I began with 100mg once a day and today began 200mg., working up to 400mg. in the next couple of weeks. I was given this for mild neuropathy and am hoping it does something for my severe AD/SD, also, which I've had for 18 yrs. Botox quit working for me after 9 injections. My last was 1994. So, I am really hoping this does some good. Reading some of your good results gives me hope. I have fought taking Neurontin for SD for a few years because of possible side effects, but, now I'm ready. I now speak on inhalation. |
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Posted by: Narelle Lehane ® 08/27/2002, 02:16:13 Author Profile Mail author |
I take neurontin, relieves my SD, but also helps with mood swings,a nd all these things, including epilepsy, are caused by the same few chemicals in the brain. I looked at the side effects of Neurontin on that page and they are way less than most medications (the Pill to take one example). I find it amazingt hat the brain nerotransmitters that cause depression also play a part in dytonia, parkinsons, epilepsy and other movement disorders - lucky me, I get to take meds that help my voice and keep me calm, hehe!! lotsa love to all Narelle Australia AD/SD |
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Posted by: Lynne Martinez ® 08/27/2002, 09:36:47 Author Profile Mail author |
So much of this is not a *coincidence,* Narelle...as you well know. Certainly not in my gene structure. I just wish Neurontin would have helped my case. Also, out of pure curiosity, I'd be very interested in knowing how many folks on this BB actually have SD. It's so difficult to diagnose and so many other vocal disorders are confused with it. I was watching the local news last night in the SF Bay and saw that the NIH is beginning new studies here on things related to Parkinson's (which my family is full of) so I'm going to do more checking. I'd love to be part of a study as I believe my case is classic, regarding genetic connections, pure symptoms and response to treatment. Also, after being on the Internet recently and checking out Michael J. Fox's site again (following a repeat of him on *The View* last week), I actually wrote a note to several elderly family members, asking for their memories of my ancestors who had any kind of tremors/spasms. Absolutely fascinating (for anyone else who wants to research their family history, which is a really good idea...before all the old folks die)! All good information to take into account and patterns to note while patients try to figure out what is going on. Thanks, Lynne (AD/SD)
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